Re: memetics-digest V1 #1307

From: Keith Henson (
Date: Sun 09 Mar 2003 - 19:42:40 GMT

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    At 12:24 PM 09/03/03 -0600, joedees wrote:


    >Sorry, but one of the primary differences between memetics and
    >genetics is the identity of the shaping environment. For genetics, it is
    >the terrestrial ecological environment; for memetics it is the cognitive

    You might be saying what I do here just using different words. Memes survive or fail to survive depending on several factors. A hypothetical meme that you could fly by jumping off high buildings is gonna fail because of physics. :-) I suppose physics could be considered part of the cognitive gestalt. Phrenology failed largely because it was judged lacking by the metameme of the scientific method. That too might be considered part of the cognitive gestalt.

    It is also worth keeping in mind that memes and genes have effects on each other. A meme for whacking off gonads or committing suicide, or never having sex (Shakers) eliminates the genes for those who are infected with such a meme. In time it might make the survivors somewhat more skeptical.

    Keith Henson

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