Re: memetics-digest V1 #1304

From: Wade T. Smith (
Date: Thu 06 Mar 2003 - 17:38:34 GMT

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    On Thursday, March 6, 2003, at 11:49 AM, memetics-digest wrote:

    > And where it is not, which is in the time/space of the performance
    > itself,
    > is where the meme is.
    > - - Wade
    > I can't help but think the environment of the meme is the mind. That's
    > where all the action takes place of cognition, use, transmission,
    > reception
    > and storage. Of course, all of these things are actions but they take
    > place
    > within the brain and the body.

    If you _want_ to put a meme in a mind, (and you ain't got any proof), then, of course its environment is the mind.

    I _don't_ want to put memes in minds, because I'd like some proof that I _have_ to, and you, nor anyone, has supplied that. So, the environment I imagine for them is not in the mind.

    Where are they?

    I don't any utility to having them as some indescribable, unanalyzable, ghostly entities within an already vaguely understood construct, as the mind is not only intangible, but perhaps, like all things having bases in chaos, unfathomable.

    So, in step with countless artists' descriptions of their own performance theory, and with all deference to darwinian processes which actually involve active and moving and performing entities at all stages, I've adopted a cultural evolution theory which only involves what we know of human behavior, and presents a moving stage of evolutionary impact extrinsic to the individual- culture in all its mechanisms.

    I don't see any way to enforce the memeinmind model, at all. It seems like homeopathy to me- pseudoscience- fantasy- wishes.

    - Wade

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