From: Wade T. Smith (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Wed 05 Mar 2003 - 19:21:26 GMT
On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 01:18 PM, memetics-digest wrote:
> What I'm proposing is that the moment I translate something in my mind
> a medium of communication and transmit it to you, the "cultural
> context" of
> that message is "gone".
I like it. It sort of mirrors what I say when I say there are no memes
in the mind, because the context is, as you say, not there, really.
> "meaning is in the culture, not the medium of communication".
I like that, too. However, we need some medium of communication, so it
does play a role. But, yes, meaning is in the culture, and culture is
> From within my brain, there isn't any difference between wood carvings,
> hieroglyphics, or this text save that some of the information
> *appears* more
> accessible. Is it really, in an absolute sense? I don't know. I
> know. But that inability to understand doesn't limit the universe
> time and space.
Yes, you have no memes in your brain- no information passed on in
identical form from one artifact or behavior to another. What you have
is, as you say, accessibility to the stored information (memories) in
your brain, according to the way you've stored it, or it's been allowed
to be stored in that brain, both by intrinsic processes of mental
development and extrinsic processes of cultural environment and
Different cultures give different structures to these memories, if they
can, and you move within the culture's environment, language, ritual,
clothing, songs, etc. Other memories also happen, from many other
sources, some within, and some without, your 'home-base' culture. (Yes,
culture is a somewhat meaningless term, but it is, after all is said
and done, where and when you are.)
> But none of it has any inherent meaning until it
> gets into my head.
The nub, because I disagree with this. None of it has any meaning until
you perform it. There is no meaning, (review your first quote) in your
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