From: Kenneth Van Oost (Kennethvanoost@belgacom.net)
Date: Wed 26 Feb 2003 - 20:14:30 GMT
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From: "Sabrina Marr" <email@example.com>
> There are several groups of monkeys in Africa, I believe, who group
> together and rub eachother's genitals, regardless of the gender of the
> partner, for purposes many have deducted to be purely altruistic. Cats
> rub up against their owners in exchange for a pat. Dogs will do just about
> anything to have their stomachs rubbed, and most animals have something
> physical that brings them either pleasure.
> Now, with the monkeys, it makes sense that a "lesbian" population
> exist. If, for the female of the species, sex is painful or otherwise
> unpleasant, but simply touching each other was entertaining, "lesbianism"
> would be a fun activity to pass your boring monkey life away.
Thanks for your interesting response,
I had a little talk with the guy who did the study, Paul Vasey ( off list)
and on a certain level his view tends to coincide with mine.
What he says makes sense to me and that is that " those macaques
prefer other females above males because the former ones already
opted ( were selected for !?) for extreme sexual behavior."
Vasey argues that their behavior is just a by- product.
Males don 't show such behavior, only within the females ( a gene !?)
In the another context I would argue, than men ( in general) prefer
young females as their mates ( something that would be cultural/
social bound and be selected for) and that thus pedophillia is a
by- product_ men still prefer young mates but in cases of pedo-
phillia they go to the extreme in the context of age !!
It seems reasonable to suggest that pedophillia is a by- product
of a larger genetic/ memetic selectionprocess.
That would certainly coincied with the assumption that indeed men
prefer young chicks due, not only they are more attractive, but be-
cause of the increased level of possible procreation of the males'
genes, those young ones can have more children and the chances
for a healty one are on the rise.
That is for men who like young girls.
For men liking young boys, we argue that a latent form of homo-
sexuality is present, but the context of being better of with a young
boy than with an old beggar remains.
In both cases, being seen with a barbiedoll of 20 or with a young
stud on your arm, would certainly give rise to men's social status.
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