From: Keith Henson (email@example.com)
Date: Fri 14 Feb 2003 - 03:35:52 GMT
At 08:26 AM 13/02/03 -0800, you wrote:
>The incident is not fresh in my mind because it happened some time in the
>60s or 70s, but there was a professor who started using Nazi methods of
>indoctrination in his classroom to show the students what happens. The
>next thing he knew, some of the students were standing around watching
>other students and telling them what to do. When the professor asked what
>they were doing, they told him they were protecting him from people who
>might try to harm him. It was not anything he had asked anyone to
>do. They just felt like it was something that needed to be done. If he
>hadn't ended the experiment, the "watchers" might have taken over the
>class and used the teacher as an excuse to put fear into the other
>students, which they had already begun to do.
It sounds to me like you might be talking about Ron Jones at Cubberly High
School in Palo Alto in 1967. I have cited the story in detail in my meme
articles going back to the 80s.
I found it from here:
Which is *another* interesting story about human social dynamics.
>"Leaders" are not always the ones in charge of what's going on. They are
>often just figureheads who provide others with the authority to do what
>THEY want to do. The figurehead is the one who gets blamed and remembered
>for all the bad things that happened. I'm not saying he/she did not go
>along with what happened, but to my mind the fault lies with the people
>who create and carry out the plans.
That exactly what happened when scientology got caught running the largest
domestic spy operation in the history of the US back in the late
70. http://www.freezone.org/timetrack/data/stipulation.htm Hubbard had
told them to spy on the US government. Eventually his wife went to jail
but he got off. Scientology did the same thing in Canada, and seemingly
being incapable of modifying those memes, they did it again in Greece in
the mid 90s.
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