Date: Mon 10 Feb 2003 - 20:30:07 GMT
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> > It is paradoxical, but nevertheless true, that they only thing that
> > the tolerant person must find intolerable is the intolerance of
> > others.
> Hi Joe,
> Yes, I just want to add the following,
> Tolerance relates to a personal attitude_ it is a noble, well- meant
> gesture of individualistic people. Therefor you see how political
> plans of actions always emphasize the individualistic side of the
> matter. But that ain 't what I wanna to say.
> If thus tolerance relates indeed to individualism and thus is lets say
> a ' memetical attitude' than there is a relation between what
> tolerance stands for and what we call ' free will '. We are tolerant
> because we like it to be_ that is debatable, but of no concern here, I
> suppose.( If we take the meme- meme point of view it is a whole
> different matter....)
> On the other hand, if_ in the context of the immigrants, their look
> upon freedom is blurded by thus what is known as ' positive free- dom'
> than we can detect a big difference. There is a fundamental contra-
> distinction between our take on free will and their notion of free
> will, clearly defined within an imposed framework ( religion).
> IMO, like I said before, it is their ways of thinking that makes them
> angry/ upset and intolerant towards our ways of life. Of course, if we
> say that we're biased, either society, ours and theirs is not pointed
> at_ that is something we don 't ought to do. Tolerance, intolerance,
> racism are results of fundamental political/ social/ cultural
> processes gone wrong/ bad. The matter is that with the notion that
> immigrants have to adapt to be fully integrated you ' break ' their
> own ' will '_ you put them once again within an imposed framework that
> in many ways is just the opposite of the one they already posses. This
> is not a matter of integration, this is a question of ideology.
No, it is just insisted that they not attempt to impose their more restrictive mores on others. A more tolerant society can tolerate most of the puritan practices of less tolerant groups within it, so long as they do not try to impose them on all, but a less-tolerant society cannot stomack the more tolerant and free practicing greater freedoms within it than it traditionally allows. this, a more tolerant society can include less tolerant individuals within it, bit not vice-versa, and this is what makkes the more inclusive society, as far as personal freedom goes, superior.
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