From: Van oost Kenneth (email@example.com)
Date: Mon 10 Feb 2003 - 20:25:35 GMT
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> It is paradoxical, but nevertheless true, that they only thing that the
> tolerant person must find intolerable is the intolerance of others.
Yes, I just want to add the following,
Tolerance relates to a personal attitude_ it is a noble, well- meant
gesture of individualistic people. Therefor you see how political
plans of actions always emphasize the individualistic side of the matter.
But that ain 't what I wanna to say.
If thus tolerance relates indeed to individualism and thus is lets say
a ' memetical attitude' than there is a relation between what tolerance
stands for and what we call ' free will '.
We are tolerant because we like it to be_ that is debatable, but of
no concern here, I suppose.( If we take the meme- meme point
of view it is a whole different matter....)
On the other hand, if_ in the context of the immigrants, their look
upon freedom is blurded by thus what is known as ' positive free-
dom' than we can detect a big difference.
There is a fundamental contra- distinction between our take on
free will and their notion of free will, clearly defined within an
imposed framework ( religion).
IMO, like I said before, it is their ways of thinking that makes
them angry/ upset and intolerant towards our ways of life.
Of course, if we say that we're biased, either society, ours
and theirs is not pointed at_ that is something we don 't ought
Tolerance, intolerance, racism are results of fundamental political/
social/ cultural processes gone wrong/ bad.
The matter is that with the notion that immigrants have to adapt
to be fully integrated you ' break ' their own ' will '_ you put
them once again within an imposed framework that in many
ways is just the opposite of the one they already posses.
This is not a matter of integration, this is a question of ideology.
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