From: Lawrence DeBivort (email@example.com)
Date: Mon 09 Dec 2002 - 22:01:13 GMT
I thought Marx was trying to create an socio-political-economic ideology
based on his idea of class warfare. I'm not sure what 'socialists' want, but
suspect that they too have an ideology. I am merely supporting the creation
of a better dialogue among various peoples. I would encourage participation
from people regardless of what ideology they may be committed to, provided
simply that they are interested in listening to others, and in being
The term alignment suggests not that everyone will or must agree; rather it
has to do with taking the diversity that exists and seeing if, together, we
can't figure out a better way to proceed as a species. I agree that this
will be of no interest to anyone who feels content with the way the world is
going now. Nor will it appeal to the pessimists, though I suspect nothing
will appeal to a pessimist.
So I urge people who are realistically optimistic, and who feel that we
could be doing better, to join in.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: firstname.lastname@example.org [mailto:email@example.com]On Behalf
> Of Van oost Kenneth
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 6:23 AM
> To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> Subject: Re: Toward a new US-World dialogue
> Hi Lawrence,
> With all do respect for your attempt here, I feel that I have to
> batch your
> hopes into the ground of pessimism. This is actually what Marx was trying
> to do so many years ago, and what is according to Harris ( see Joe 's URL)
> the reason why the world is so contrary towards the US.
> A worlds society is not yet for tomorrow, the working force will not line
> up with those poor fellows of the Third World.
> A socialist future like you attempt to create is bound to fail,
> but you got
> deepest sympathy....
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lawrence DeBivort" <email@example.com>
> To: <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 6:27 PM
> Subject: Toward a new US-World dialogue
> > Greetings,
> > These last months have led me to conclude that a new dialogue between
> > Americans and the other peoples of the world is needed. It is clear that
> > present course of things will result in an increasingly contentious and
> > self-destructive world, and that this will undermine both the well-being
> > all and that of our children.
> > There may be the possibility to initiate a new dialogue around these
> > The selfish reason to do so is to contribute to efforts to help the US
> > a healthier role for itself in the world, and to create conditions in
> > all members of the human species can thrive.
> > Are members of this memetics forum interested in participating in this
> > initiative? I look forward to hearing from you.
> > Best regards,
> > Lawry
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