Re: evolution

From: Van oost Kenneth (
Date: Mon 09 Dec 2002 - 20:42:57 GMT

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    ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wade Smith" <>
    > On Monday, December 9, 2002, at 12:04 PM, Grant Callaghan wrote:
    > > I think we have to define memetic evolution as Lamarkian for
    > > two reasons: 1) the "seed" of an idea is broadcast to everyone
    > > withing seeing or hearing distance rather than selectively
    > > passed to just one individual, which these days means everyone
    > > watching TV, going to school, reading the same book or reading
    > > this list, etc., etc. and 2) the meme which is picked up by
    > > various members of the public does not produce a faithful
    > > reproduction of the meme that was spread in the broadcast.
    > > There is too much variation for it to be a Darwinian type
    > > reproduction and evolution.
    > Each performance is goal-oriented (aka lamarckian) (the
    > performance itself, as far as the performer is concerned, is
    > only a goal, but the performance itself is only half of the
    > equation of culture), yes, but, each replication may only have
    > the goal of replication itself, so, while lamarckianism might be
    > a fair analyzation of some individuals' memetic processes, I
    > don't think cultural evolution itself demands lamarckian
    > mechanisms, at all.
    > And, evolutionary mechanisms are not presumed to be individual's
    > mechanisms, are they, regardless of the agency within evolution
    > of individuals?

    And that is just to beat, the presumption that evolution is NOT individualistic biased !


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