RE: Why Europe is so Contrary

From: Lawrence DeBivort (
Date: Thu 05 Dec 2002 - 16:30:42 GMT

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    Hi Wade! Well, it's a snowy day here and the fire is comforting, so I'll niggle you a bit.... <smile>

    Last, uh, 60 years: stopping Hitler and the Internet. Both profoundly helpful to the processes of human civilization, the first stopping a regime that would have frozen social evolution, and the latter providing the healthiest of tools with which to activate the world's variety. The latter opens an extraordinary door; now, of course, we have to figure out how to walk through it.

    > > but I still would place
    > > my bets on this being the country that most advances human
    > > civilization over
    > > the next fifty years or so.

    Wade: > There is nothing to bet about for the last fifty years....
    > > The
    > > executive branch of our government has been overtaken by Christian
    > > fundamentalism,
    > I wouldn't go that far. Some swaying, yes, in that direction,
    > but, they are still politicians in those chairs, not clerics.
    > And politicians only go the way the wind is blowing, and there
    > are lots of winds in this country, as you say.

    Karl Rove, Reed, Feith.... These guys are non-trivial thinkers and
    'control' domestic policy. The neoconservatives, also non-trivial -- Wolfowitz, Perle, et al, 'control' foreign policy. But as I've said before: it is the liberals' (and others') fault: President Bush could have been brought into other ideologies, had others not looked down their noses at him

    > > The markers of the
    > > failure of their vision are beginning to manifest themselves.
    > It's a shallow wind, a non-fragrant backdraft against the
    > founding breath.

    Hey! Have mercy. I live next door to some of these goofy-woofs, and have to keep my hopes up somehow...

    Cheers, Lawry

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