Re: Joe

Date: Tue 03 Dec 2002 - 04:01:13 GMT

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    > > From: Jon Gilbert <>
    > >
    > > >How long have you been on this list, Jon?
    > >
    > > Admittedly a short time.
    > So you have no idea what you're talking about. Joe is a
    > psychologically violent person with plenty of time on his hands, and
    > we're trying to deal with this problem in a calm, constructive manner.
    > It's hard enough to openly criticize a "serial bully" without some
    > guy who has no clue as to what's going on telling us we're not being
    > nice.
    > Joe is an obvious, over-the-top sociopath. You don't need to be a
    > psychiatrist or even a licensed mental health practitioner to figure
    > that out. All it takes is a good background in abnormal psychology.
    > The definitive text on personality disorders remains Otto Kernberg's
    > *Borderline Conditions & Pathological Narcissism* (1975). There's
    > also plenty of good material on the web. Here's a useful discussion:
    > This site is
    > designed to help people who must endure a sociopath in their
    > workplace. Typical traits include:
    > Arrested level of emotional development; whilst language and intellect
    > may appear to be that of an adult, the bully displays the emotional
    > age of a five-year-old
    > Possessed of an exceptional verbal facility and will outmanoeuvre most
    > people in verbal interaction, especially at times of conflict
    > Relies on mimicry, repetition and regurgitation to convince others
    > that he or she is both a "normal" human being and a tough dynamic
    > manager, as in extolling the virtues of the latest management fads and
    > pouring forth the accompanying jargon
    > Holds deep prejudices (eg against the opposite gender, people of a
    > different sexual orientation, other cultures and religious beliefs,
    > foreigners, etc) but goes to great lengths to keep this prejudicial
    > aspect of their personality secret
    > Self-opinionated and displays arrogance, audacity, a superior sense of
    > entitlement and a sense of invulnerability and untouchability
    > Will launch an immediate personal attack attempting to restrict what
    > you are permitted to say if you start talking knowledgeably about
    > psychopathic personality or antisocial personality disorder in their
    > presence - but aggressively maintains the right to talk (usually
    > unknowledgeably) about anything they choose; serial bullies despise
    > anyone who enables others to see through their deception and their
    > mask of sanity
    > Displays a compulsive need to criticise whilst simultaneously refusing
    > to value, praise and acknowledge others, their achievements, or their
    > existence
    > Refuses to be specific and never gives a straight answer
    > Has a Houdini-like ability to escape accountability
    > Quick to belittle, undermine, denigrate and discredit anyone who
    > calls, attempts to call, or might call the bully to account
    > Arrogant, haughty, high-handed, and a know-all
    > Constantly imposes on others a false reality made up of distortion and
    > fabrication
    > Displays a seemingly limitless demonic energy especially when engaged
    > in attention-seeking activities or evasion of accountability and is
    > often a committeeaholic or apparent workaholic _________
    > Joe is a very damaging force on this list and displays only a passing
    > interest in memes. He'd rather deluge us with anti-Palestinian
    > polemics or even a two-part essay on Zen and existentialism (of all
    > things) than discuss memetics. He makes ridiculous accusations that
    > compel the target of his attacks to respond, setting off endless
    > arguments that serve no purpose whatsoever. Personally, I won't
    > respond to him. I don't care what he says. I assume the people on
    > this list know better than to take him seriously. If everyone took
    > this approach, there'd be a lot less distracting talk here.
    > Ted
    Like any bully, Ted is also a craven coward; he will talk ABOUT me (or his deluded straw-man construct of me), but not TO me (when he says that 'we're' trying to deal with me, I wonder if his pet cat is in the room, for I do not see anyone else eager to sidle up to Ted's flank and enlist in his petty little vendetta against me) . I am indeed intolerant of intolerance, be it religious (as in Radical Islam or Fundamentalist Christianity) or ideological and pseudoscientific (as in morphic resonance or Marxist economic theory). A comparison of Zen Buddhism and existential phenomenology is indeed within the purview of this list, as is any study of the contrasts between differing ideologies (read memeplexes); their respective natures are highlighted by such comparisons. I have previously submitted two other such studies here, comparing Christianity with Marxism, and comparing Patriarchal Monotheism with NeoPaganism, and have also offered other studies here, namely THE MEMETIC STANCE, A SHORT PHILOSOPHY OF HISTORY, TOWARD A VIRION ETHICS and TOOLS, LANGUAGE AND TEXT, all of which have to do in some measure with memes. My discussions here have not been evasive; far from it - they have sometimes been criticized fro being overly blunt, but when confronted with a persistent jackass such as Ted one sometimes must result to the 2x4-to the-head approach. And I have no difficulty discussing psychopathology, particularly Ted's psychological projection of his own character traits upon me - and anyone who's been around here for a while saw those very character traits amply and abundantly exhibited in his rantig raving screeds about Sheldrakeanism , which he appropriated and in which he invested his emotional capital and his sense of self- worth, for lack of anything original of his own to offer.
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