Date: Sat 02 Nov 2002 - 20:51:55 GMT
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> From: "Scott Chase" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> > If we are so great and 'evolution tends to favor' us, which your
> > argument boils down to, then why do bacteria persist? Why haven't we
> > replaced them
> > sent them into the pit of extinction as a group?
> That was an initial gut feeling I got too Joe !
> In the discussion we have with Wade, Wade argued I missed your point,
> that you weren 't even close to defend collectiviness, I reconsidered
> my view and came to the conclusion that beneath, the notion of
> collectiviness was giving by the bias of similarity which you defend.
> And I kept quiet. But now I see you go much further than that, you
> bring in a " religious " aspect, one that Darwin himself was obliged
> to built in, that despite the fact evolution was random and blind, man
> was its favour subject.
> I thought Joe you were a rationalist, one of the harder line, but now
> you can 't save the appearence even to be one. You drag morality and
> ethics into a dis- cussion where even the need for those can be
> missed. You deny the fact that man can create along his own image,
> without any divine intervention and that is why you " attack " Wade
> because in his scheme as each beme exists only for the time it is in
> performance, the question of life and death is part of the system, not
> in the hands of some- thing that must be at its base.
> That is what I see,
> can be wrong, for what than I ask your forgiveness,
It does not matter to the universe whether life exists at all, much less which level of complexity and freedom it attains. Our emergence of a dynamic and rcursive self-conscious awareness has meaning for us
(and permits us to create human meaning), but it matters not one whit to the cosmos, nor does anything.
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