Date: Fri 01 Nov 2002 - 23:32:22 GMT
> On Friday, November 1, 2002, at 05:39 , firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
> > But your memeinthebody model
> No, it is _not_ a memeinthebody model- that is _your_ model.
> The pemetic model is a memeinperformance model.
I have yet to witness a nonbody performance. Have you?
> Here's the complete scan of definitions of 'performance'. The pemetic
> model also assumes the axiomatic position that an observer and a stage
> are also conditions of the cultural unit. Your model does not, and
> that is its glaring flaw, and one that is unrecoverable from, IMHO.
Not all attempts to replicate must be successful for the attempt to be made. A meme that demands periodic performance, such as cigarette smoking, will be indulged in both publicly and privately.
> From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913):
> Performance \Per*form"ance\, n.
> The act of performing; the carrying into execution or action;
> execution; achievement; accomplishment; representation by action;
> as, the performance of an undertaking of a duty.
I fail to see an audience here.
> Promises are not binding where the performance is
> impossible. --Paley.
> 2. That which is performed or accomplished; a thing done or
> carried through; an achievement; a deed; an act; a feat;
> esp., an action of an elaborate or public character. ``Her
> walking and other actual performances.'' --Shak. ``His musical
> performances.'' --Macaulay.
I also fail to see an audience here. One may, and usually does, perform masturbation privately, no?
> Syn: Completion; consummation; execution; accomplishment;
> achievement; production; work; act; action; deed;
> exploit; feat.
Actions do not require observers. The shoe is pulled on the foot whether or not someone else is in the room.
> From WordNet (r) 1.7:
> n 1: a dramatic or musical entertainment; "they listened to ten
> different performances"; "the play ran for 100
> performances"; "the frequent performances of the
> symphony testify to its popularity" [syn: public
> 2: the act of performing; of doing something successfully;
> using knowledge as distinguished from merely possessing
> it; "they criticised his performance as mayor";
> "experience generally improves performance" [syn: execution,
> carrying out, carrying into action]
> 3: the act of presenting a play or a piece of music or other
> entertainment; "we congratulated him on his performance at
> the rehearsal"; "an inspired performance of Mozart's C minor
> 4: process or manner of functioning or operating; "the power of
> its engine determine its operation"; "the plane's
> operation in high winds"; "they compared the cooking
> performance of each oven"; "the jet's performance
> conformed to high standards" [syn: operation, functioning]
> 5: any recognized accomplishment; "they admired his performance
> under stress"; "when Roger Maris powered four home runs in
> one game his performance merits awe"
Once again, there may be observers for performances, but it is not a necessity that there must be.
> And, who can actually observe the mind? Really? Seriously?
We commonly observe its behavioral effects, and less commonly observe their correlations with cognitive changes.
> > fMRI and PET scan experimental evidence is corroboration enough to
> > sustain the theory
> Okay, if anyone is listening, does anyone else here agree with this?
> IMHO there is not sufficient evidence from any source to corroborate
> the memesinthemind conjecture, much less (or more, can't tell which),
> corroborate the existence of 'mind', but, who am I?
One who is thinking of replies before you type them.
> - Wade
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