Re: I know one when I see one

From: Wade T.Smith (
Date: Fri 01 Nov 2002 - 23:11:05 GMT

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    On Friday, November 1, 2002, at 05:49 , wrote:

    > With the difference that, in the case of mental memes, we are able to
    > observe their effects, and are unable to logically, rationally or
    > reasonably attribute them to any other possible causes.

    That still sounds like apologia to me- theists tell us the effects of their god is everywhere around us, in the very fact we are here. You claim the same thing, only your god is the memeinthemind, whose supposed effects, you say, are self-evident, and yet, you give up nothing of the actual cause but conjecture based upon an interpretation of some effects. And where is this inability to attribute cultural behavior to anything other than a memeinthemind? There are reasonable, logical, and rational explanations that have no need of a meme, just as there are rational explanations for the universe that have no need of gods, and yet these explanations look at the same effects.

    Your memeinthemind model is an interpretation, with sketchy (and itself interpreted) evidence, from fledgling observations of brains at function. We have a long way to go before we can recognize causes in the brain, much less find discrete operatives in a mind.

    - Wade

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