Date: Fri 01 Nov 2002 - 18:04:28 GMT
> On Friday, November 1, 2002, at 06:25 , email@example.com wrote:
> > a common thought-basis
> > for instances of similar actions?
> The bemetic model assumes a similar common thought-basis (brain
> activity) for things like spider webs, language acquisition, artistic
> creation, etc. Where we catalog and define these processes might,
> perhaps, find things like meme-ories. It also assumes all the
> commonalities of speciation. In short, it assumes all that is here to
> see about the human being as a member of the life of this planet, if
> not this universe.
> It also assumes the complex homo sapien brain to house a
> self-referential emergent process. And, maybe we'll find the closet
> that's in, too. No tellin'.
And this is the differentiation that allows volition, individuality, creativity and innovation, without which there could not be memetic mutation or selection, but just the lockstep following of a common species template.
> But regardless, how important is the self to cultural continuity?
> I would say a self is adamantly required to be a participant in
> culture, but, we still need at least two to tango.
> Are at least two selves, perhaps, at the top of the list of things
> that are really necessary for culture? You betcha. No self is a
> cultural island.
> What came first, the self, or culture? Are the two in some way part of
> the same process? (Could be. It's a substantial argument, I think if
> not self-evident. But not if one claims birds have culture.)
I think that self and culture are co-primordial and coevolutionary. Each evolves the other, and has since way before the advent of created language, in fact, ever since a protosimian picked up an implement to extend his/her reach.
> - Wade
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