Re: electric meme bombs

From: Van oost Kenneth (
Date: Fri 01 Nov 2002 - 15:51:02 GMT

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    > > > > On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 03:19 , Van oost Kenneth wrote:
    > > This is becoming a question of ideology IMO !
    > > Wade is in a sense emphazin' individuality and Joe lingers onto a more
    > > collective state of things. In Wade's proposal a Bildung- ideal is
    > > set/ implied, Joe uses the gene- ralisation to drive cultural
    > > transmission. Wade's proposal is something that implies humanism/
    > > romantism, Joe's claim is dependent of something higher, more divine,
    > > collectiviness is seen here as a ' natural autority ' !
    > > I reject that...
    > Do you reject DNA, a common molecular basis for instances of similar
    > creatures, as blithely and facilely as you reject a common thought-basis
    > for instances of similar actions?

    No, I reject the fact that everything must be seen as a result/ outcome of a collective enterprise. In my book, the strings which eventually made up DNA were singularities in their own beginning. The only next step in their seperate evolution was working together. I reject the fact that many often forget there was that first step to be taken, two cells working together was the second step of evolution. Working together is NOT a natural trait, it is evolutionary adaptation.

    For cases where a common thought- bases for instances of similar actions is required the same line of thought can bear fruits. There is no doubt in my mind that would ignore the possibility that seamingly similar actions have a common thought- bias, but that is not to say those sprung out of some fellowship between two people. In their own mind they could have come up with the exact same idea millions of miles apart.

    If you now conclude that would be a result of how their mind works you are wrong, neurons and cognitive processes all work on an
    " individualistic " level. Different environmental stresses around the globe can result into a similar behavior, but you may not see this as a step of the whole of worlds -community. If you do you deny the individual his/ hers identity and contribution.



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