Fw: Are memes ideas?

From: Philip Jonkers (ephilution@attbi.com)
Date: Fri 18 Oct 2002 - 07:55:26 GMT

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    > Vincent:
    > > I think Richard questioned the importance/relevance of distinctions
    > between
    > > ideas, behaviours and artifacts. At the end of the day it may not
    > > much conceptually (although I think it might), but it certainly matters
    > > operationally, in terms of what we study if we want to try and study
    > > "in the wild" (i.e. empirically). If memes are in minds that's no good
    > > me, as I'm not a neuroscientist or psychologist; if they're in
    > > then its perhaps social psychologists' and anthropologists' territory,
    > again
    > > no good to me. If they're in artifacts, then people like me can play
    > > In other words, I'll admit I have a professional vested interest in
    > > to keep an artifactual dimension to memes.
    > If memes as artifacts makes you and Derek happy among others;
    > memes as behavior makes guys like Wade happy, and memes as ideas (among
    > other things) makes me and a whole bunch of other people happy, then why
    > fuse all those suggestions into one overarching abstract definition?
    > Just an idea... er, meme I mean ;-).
    > Phil.

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