Date: Thu 17 Oct 2002 - 17:56:52 GMT
> >> > I know what song I'm going to sing before I sing it
> > >
> >> You're alone in this.
> <In five minutes I shall sing "London Bridges". Anyone else can make
> a > similar decision regarding a ditty whose melody and lyrics they
> know, > that is, whose memetic structure they have internalized.> >
> That's not what Wade meant. Until you wrote that (and indeed others
> read it) the only person who knew what song you were going to sing was
> you. And, without you indicating in advance, the only way anyone else
> would know is when you sang it. Moreover, at that point, all other
> people know is what you are singing, not what you intended to sing, or
> how long you'd been planning it.
> If you're applying meme to mean any meaningful thing that a brain
> does, then I don't see any value in this. Decisions about church
> attendance or concert-going, are just that decisions. They're not
> memes unless carried out, or articulated in some kind of way. If
> someone owns up to the priest as to why they missed a service, then
> you, possibly, have the transmission of a meme.
> I presume you're pointing to the necessary presence of concepts like
> 'concert going', the song to sing etc., in advance of their
> transmission or performance. But surely the thing that makes these
> things memes is the transmission, dissemination, or perhaps as Wade is
> currently advocating, behaved/performed. Like he said, if you ain't
> on the field, you're not playing the game (or in the case of the NY
> Mets this year, even being on the field doesn't mean you're playing).
If you don't know how to play, you can't even take the field.
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