From: Wade Smith (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Wed 16 Oct 2002 - 16:44:23 GMT
On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, at 11:54 , email@example.com wrote:
> A concept can be retooled, a speech can be rewritten or a
> melody can be recomposed in the mind (I can talk to myself, hear, and
> play tunes there if I try) before they are ever written down, spoken or
But nobody's ever going to give a shit. And if no-one sees, hears, or
knows about your idea, it's not there. Is there such a thing as a meme
that is not there? Not in my book. It's either performed, or it's not.
Literally. Your idea is useless memetically until you perform the
behavior of expressing it.
Besides, how can I, or anyone else, know this 'idea' of yours unless you
Really, this concept of 'memes being in the head' is becoming quite
ridiculous to me. The brain is what it is, and, once we perform memetic
actions (memes), these brain things become known. Before that, all they
are is brain activity, background, memories, conceptions, without voice
or presence. Once performed, once entered into the cultural arena, they
have, at least, a chance of survival memetically. Your unexpressed idea
is not even in the ballpark, to use another metaphor.
You can't win any cultural survival game unless you're playing.
And, yeah, it helps to have a program once the players are out on the
field, but, even the audience is performing, and your idea, in your
head, is not. It ain't even there, memetically. It's a ghost, and that's
> It makes no sense to say that Sunday churchgoers
> reconvert to their faith once a week.
Never said they did. But they continue the meme of showing up. Whether
they are converted, reconverted, faithful, or unfaithful is unknown and
irrelevant. They continued the behavior of showing up, and once there,
perhaps continue other behaviors common to this meme-plex called church.
But they are behaving.
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