RE: The Expt

From: Vincent Campbell (
Date: Mon May 27 2002 - 15:15:36 BST

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            <Interesting. Do you think any of them had read Animal Farm? I felt
    like I
    > was watching a humanised version at times.>
            Bimson explicitly mentioned it in the first episode, explaining the
    plot it to a fellow inmate. This was before he decided to try a coup
    (obviously preferring Napoleon to Snowball in Orwell's masterpiece.

            <The final question offered by the Expt is that tyranny occurs in
    the vacuum
    > of power, as shown in the program. But I think they were being very
    > simplistic, because this society was small. Even the populists try to
    > accrue
    > power, such as Tony Blair.
    > Still, an interesting exercise.>
            I agree. I think tyranny emerges in the absence of order, which
    isn't quite the same thing as the absence of power. Tyranny can also be
    collective as well as individual, the tyranny of the majority, for example.
    Maybe that's what pissed off Petkin, Edwards and Bimson, their
    individuality, and in the former two's case, the key role in breaking the
    guards, being "rewarded" only with equal status as the others- they replaced
    one kind of authority with another, that was equally unacceptable to them.
    Given that Petkin and Edwards apparently displayed very different reasons
    for challenging the system at every opportunity (the former out a desire to
    undermine authority, the latter to usurp it), it would have been interesting
    to see how the coup would have turned out.


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