Re: pls direct me to a memetics list <eom>

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    > Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 20:43:37 -0400
    > From: "Wade T.Smith" <>
    > Subject: Re: pls direct me to a memetics list <eom>
    > On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, at 04:28 , Steve Drew wrote:
    >> The second point is
    >> that, again from outside, religion seems to be about the individual in
    >> the
    >> puritan sense of the 'get off your backside and make something of
    >> yourself'
    >> England is the meek variety of love thy neighbour
    > What happened to that 'stiff upper lip, old chap'?

    It can still be found. That's why ME took so long to be diagnosed, the
    arguments over gulf war syndrome etc. The idea is shut up and grin (it cost
    less) :-)
    > You see, I wanted to know what particular 'US view' you thought I was
    > seeing out of. I would never tell you stop staring out from under the
    > queen's skirts, even though you (as a nation) haven't as yet cut that
    > cord, even symbolically.... All generalities are false.
    > (Were I in the UK, I'd be a rabid anti-royalist. I'd also want to know
    > why you've been wimping around and haven't gotten rid of those
    > syphilitic parasites.... You'd see me ranting in Hyde Park.)

    Where, if I could bring myself to visit the dump, I would staunchly applaud
    you. Not a monarchist myself.
    > I'll admit I personally am untraveled. And it is my own humble opinion
    > that all foreign nations are seen from the outside by outsiders with a
    > certain narrow lens. Only real travel can present one with the diversity
    > of actual people in all cultures. And we all still fart and belch, under
    > all flags.

    Been to Spain and Austria. In Spain I went to the Costa del England, the
    land of drunks and pavement pizza. I also went to the mountains of Spain and
    Austria and found something different. Although they catered for other
    nationals they still held to their own ways, unlike the coastal places. But
    yes you only see a narrow picture, but the one I saw in the mountains showed
    me something with a little more beauty in it.

    We do indeed fart and belch under all flags. What happens to you after
    depends on the flag!
    > Is religion _not_ about the individual wherever it is? What is
    > community? When does a gathering become a mob?
    > Are we all reporters on the outside, and cogs on the inside? Where is
    > the line?

    I don't understand these last two. Could you elaborate a bit please?
    > - - Wade



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