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From: "Vincent Campbell" <email@example.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:22 AM
Subject: Red, tooth and claw (was media and violence)
> >>Compared to that, there aren't many fierce predators (didn't
> >> write a book called something like 'why big, fierce animals are
> <No offense, but I beg to differ. Even the vegans among us are
> slayers (of
> > veggies).>
> Don't worry, I'm not going to jump on you like Bill Benzon did! (BTW
> I'm not going to get involved in that one, apart from saying that I see
> Bill's wider point, but that's not what you were saying, nor do I think
> term for you was appropriate. It's not like him to be so terse).
I don't disagree with him when he says that it's a dirty world out there but
simply not what I'm saying in that posting.
> Similarly here, I know what yo mean, but still some veggies and
> fruits don't "mind" being eaten though- indeed isn't that the purpose, in
> order to get seeds widely distributed? I wonder if plants that bear fruit
> would, if sentient and able to talk, would be like that animal in the
> Restaurant at the End of the Universe that wants to be eaten? (Arthur Dent
> says that's disgusting, to which the retort comes, better than eating an
> animal that doesn't want to be eaten).
I agree mechanisms have evolved in which plants proliferate and disperse
if their seeds and the like that have to be eaten.
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