Re: Red, tooth and claw (was media and violence)

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    From: "Vincent Campbell" <>
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    Subject: Red, tooth and claw (was media and violence)

    > >>Compared to that, there aren't many fierce predators (didn't
    > someone
    > >> write a book called something like 'why big, fierce animals are
    > scarce'?).
    > <No offense, but I beg to differ. Even the vegans among us are
    > slayers (of
    > > veggies).>
    > >
    > Don't worry, I'm not going to jump on you like Bill Benzon did! (BTW
    > I'm not going to get involved in that one, apart from saying that I see
    > Bill's wider point, but that's not what you were saying, nor do I think
    > term for you was appropriate. It's not like him to be so terse).

    I don't disagree with him when he says that it's a dirty world out there but
    simply not what I'm saying in that posting.

    > Similarly here, I know what yo mean, but still some veggies and
    > fruits don't "mind" being eaten though- indeed isn't that the purpose, in
    > order to get seeds widely distributed? I wonder if plants that bear fruit
    > would, if sentient and able to talk, would be like that animal in the
    > Restaurant at the End of the Universe that wants to be eaten? (Arthur Dent
    > says that's disgusting, to which the retort comes, better than eating an
    > animal that doesn't want to be eaten).

    I agree mechanisms have evolved in which plants proliferate and disperse
    if their seeds and the like that have to be eaten.


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