Re: Shakers

From: Wade T.Smith (
Date: Mon Apr 29 2002 - 13:34:56 BST

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    On 04/28/02 20:00, Scott Chase said this-

    >Are there *any* Shakers still around, I mean people who still practice their
    >core beliefs?

    To the best of my recollection, the last living Shaker, an old woman, of
    course, died within the last decade.

    There are no Shakers anymore. But- their legacy, i.e. their memes, are
    not only still around, they are flourishing, in the furniture trade. Now,
    far be it for me to say that artifacts are more important than beliefs
    memetically (right...), but, guess what? they are.

    Even knowing the word 'shaker' is memetic. I bet there are a thousand
    cults that have come and gone that no-one has their name on their lips.

    In design schools all over the world, the work of the Shakers is studied
    and admired, and carried on. I studied this, not their beliefs, when I
    studied the Shakers.

    Theirs is a truly memetic legacy, since their genetic legacy (as if they
    ever had one, really, people... beliefs are not genetic) has perished.

    There is an excellent book called The Shaker Legacy about their furniture
    and their philosophy of utility.

    It would behoove memetics to examine the Shakers in great detail, IMHO.

    - Wade

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