RE: Bush's War on Terrorism

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    >Subject: RE: Bush's War on Terrorism
    >Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 13:39:09 +0000
    >>The U.S. is funding the armies of Israel,
    >>Palestine, Egypt and, through oil, the rest of the muslim countries.
    >>actually paying the people who are attacking us. Without U.S, assistance
    >>Arafat would have collapsed already. In addition, he is getting help from
    >>Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria, and Iran. You must have seen that shipload of
    >>arms the Israelis confiscated. That's why Arafat doesn't get any bigger
    >>better arms. The Israelis control what gets into Palestine.
    >I agree with most of this but I don't see what you're arguing, sorry
    >>even control his own army.
    >- he doesn't have an army to control
    >>If you were able to find out how much assistance we give Israel you must
    >>also be able to look down the list of countries we support and see how
    >>we give Egypt and Palestine.
    > (Federation of American Scientists) is a source of arms
    >sales statistics for those interested.
    >>In the hands of the U.S. government, money is
    >>an instrument of foreign policy. It has been for decades. The Chinese
    >>doing it for many of the same people (think of all the countries with
    >>that end in -stan) over 2,000 years ago. They used to buy off the
    >>barbarians they built the Great Wall to keep out. As a result, the
    >>and the Manchus later rode in and took over their country. I have no
    >>Chinese money helped buy the Mongol armies that took over half the world
    >>under Gengis Khan. It's a philosophy that doesn't buy peace. It only
    >>time. But with the accelerating pace of change in the world, it doesn't
    >>even buy much of that anymore.
    >Interesting history, but whether money buys peace or violence is a measure
    >of what it's spent on. Hospitals and schools are more peaceable
    >than barracks and military colleges.
    >PS: many apologies to Scott for my attributing a previous quote to him in
    The point I was trying to make is that the U.S. is using money to try and
    control the various parties and are attempting to support both sides in an
    attempt not to appear biased. It's not working. When our government gives
    money to another country, the money goes from government to government.
    Once out of our hands, we have no control over what that government spends
    it on. So it would be nice if they spent it on shcools and hospitals, the
    truth is they most often spend it on guns and building armies. As for
    Palestine not having an army, what do you think all those people shooting
    back at the Israelis are? Just because they don't wear uniforms doesn't
    mean they are not organized for waging war. If not stopped by Israel,
    Arafat would be getting shiploads of arms from Iran and other countries.
    It's more a matter of their isolation than their desire that keeps them from
    having as big an army as Iraq.



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