RE: Bush's War on Terrorism

From: Edward Turner (
Date: Fri Apr 26 2002 - 14:39:09 BST

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    >The U.S. is funding the armies of Israel,
    >Palestine, Egypt and, through oil, the rest of the muslim countries. We're
    >actually paying the people who are attacking us. Without U.S, assistance
    >Arafat would have collapsed already. In addition, he is getting help from
    >Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria, and Iran. You must have seen that shipload of
    >arms the Israelis confiscated. That's why Arafat doesn't get any bigger and
    >better arms. The Israelis control what gets into Palestine.

    I agree with most of this but I don't see what you're arguing, sorry

    >even control his own army.

    - he doesn't have an army to control

    >If you were able to find out how much assistance we give Israel you must
    >also be able to look down the list of countries we support and see how much
    >we give Egypt and Palestine. (Federation of American Scientists) is a source of arms
    sales statistics for those interested.

    >In the hands of the U.S. government, money is
    >an instrument of foreign policy. It has been for decades. The Chinese
    >doing it for many of the same people (think of all the countries with names
    >that end in -stan) over 2,000 years ago. They used to buy off the
    >barbarians they built the Great Wall to keep out. As a result, the Mongols
    >and the Manchus later rode in and took over their country. I have no doubt
    >Chinese money helped buy the Mongol armies that took over half the world
    >under Gengis Khan. It's a philosophy that doesn't buy peace. It only buys
    >time. But with the accelerating pace of change in the world, it doesn't
    >even buy much of that anymore.

    Interesting history, but whether money buys peace or violence is a measure
    of what it's spent on. Hospitals and schools are more peaceable institutions
    than barracks and military colleges.



    PS: many apologies to Scott for my attributing a previous quote to him in

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