RE: Bush's War on Terrorism

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    Hi Scott

    > Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:34:30 -0400
    > From: "Scott Chase" <>
    > Subject: RE: Bush's War on Terrorism
    >> From: Steve Drew <>
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    >> Subject: RE: Bush's War on Terrorism
    >> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 21:13:13 +0100
    >> Hi Vincent
    >>> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 15:14:06 +0100
    >>> From: Vincent Campbell <>
    >>> Subject: RE: Bush's War on Terrorism
    >>> <I'm starting to feel like a travel agent. Check out Tunisia and
    >>> Morocco.
    >>>> Lots of American and European expats live in both.>
    >>> Surely that would make them less desirable to live in ? :-)
    >>>>> Can't say I know of a muslim country that would be nice to live
    >>> in.>>
    >>> I nearly missed this rather nasty little sentence. Beware sweeping
    >>> generalisations, whoever wrote this.
    >>> Vincent
    >> It is not a sweeping generalisation, it is my personal judgement based upon
    >> my preferences of which you know very little about. I have nothing against
    >> anyone unless they take issue with me. From the information I have read I
    >> do
    >> not believe I know of a muslim country that would be nice to live in, but
    >> because I do not know (and that is why I used the word do not know) means I
    >> can be persuaded In the face of evidence to the contrary. As I say in an
    >> earlier post, I would be happy to visit the counties and meet the people,
    >> who I gather are generally hospitable and friendly, like most people in the
    >> world. I just love living where I am. The nastiness resides in your
    >> interpretation, not the sentence.
    > There's plenty of places in the U.S. that might be nice to visit but I don't
    > think I could live there. Big city livin' ain't my thang. I'd go need a
    > padded cell and straightjacket if I were forced to spend more than a month
    > in metropolitan NYC or LA. I've got lots of relatives in the Boston area.
    > It's a nice place to visit, but... Even though I live further south than
    > what I call the "Deep South", I don't think I could deal with living in
    > Appalachia either. I'm not fond of hustle bustle, but I'm not fond of
    > molasses and cornbread stagnation either. In summary, one could probably
    > point to plenty of places within the borders of their own countries they
    > wouldn't want to live, but visitation might be a different story.

    True enough. I am fortunate to live 2 miles from the centre of the city of
    Bradford, and only 1 mile from the Yorkshire moors, 25 mins to Leeds, a
    major city, and with easy access the Peak District National Park etc. You
    get the picture. See also my reply to Vincent's post, which I assume will be
    in 1029.
    > When I visited England, my first day or so involved a combo of jet lag and
    > severe culture shock. They spoke English (I think that's what they call it),
    > but things seemed so very different than I was used to that I sort of went
    > blank for a day or so. Seeing punk-rockers on "The Tube" or whatever the
    > London subway is called pretty much shattered my little mind. They made
    > Billy Idol look like a young Republican poster child.

    Thought he was!

    I thought you new the joke. Two nations divided by one language :-)
    > After a couple days I got used to it and even picked up a tad of a British
    > accent via osmosis.

    British accent doesnąt exist. English, Scots, Welsh, and Ulster. You could
    have just upset them all.

    And I'm non. I'm a Yorkshireman.
    > The biggest obstacle in travelling to another country is culture shock,
    > experiencing things that are way different than you take for granted. France
    > was an experience in itself, because the French are...well...French ;-) I
    > was disappointed that Quasimodo wasn't at Notre Dame BTW. I almost got a
    > case of beer dropped on my head from an upper story apartment in the
    > Parisian Latin Quarter.

    Did you manage to catch it?
    > Any country is going to be hard to cope with given language barriers and
    > cultural differences. Islamic countries are probably even more so because of
    > some mutual hostility and misunderstanding, though I"ve heard good things
    > about Turkey from someone who travelled there and Egypt has its own
    > historical legacy that should be a strong magnet in itself. For US-ian
    > history we have St. Augustine here in Florida and some buildings with
    > historical value in regions like the American Revolution areas around
    > Boston. Egypt is about as historical as it gets, making colonial
    > Massachusetts look like a new housing development.

    The details that I replied to in Lawrence's missive later on in this list is
    also valid here.

    Thought they had located the original Jamestown which is as early as you can
    get, sort of? [Barring the odd viking or Irish monk :-) ] {Microsoft doesn't
    recognise the word viking so balls to that idea!}

    Yep, you could be considered in some quarters newbies in the history stakes,
    though I wouldn't mention it to any 'native' Americans if I were you :-)

    As I say there are plenty of Muslim countries I want to visit.



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