Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id EAA25138 (8.6.9/5.3[ref firstname.lastname@example.org] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from email@example.com); Fri, 19 Apr 2002 04:17:11 +0100 X-Originating-IP: [22.214.171.124] From: "Scott Chase" <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: email@example.com Subject: Re: Thoughts and Perceptions Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 23:11:08 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F248U7a0xtAEHLB8TrB00001daf@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2002 03:11:08.0665 (UTC) FILETIME=[D9DCE690:01C1E74F] Sender: firstname.lastname@example.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: email@example.com
>From: Bill Spight <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>Subject: Re: Thoughts and Perceptions
>Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 10:22:31 -0700
> > On Thursday, April 18, 2002, at 09:39 , Bill Spight wrote:
> > > When you say, "Gravity is a fact," you may mean something like,
> > > fall to earth" or "planets orbit stars".
> > No, I mean gravity is a basic and universal force present in all matter
> > in the entire universe. It cannot be denied.
> > - Wade
>Well, gee, Wade, quote me selectively, why don't you? ;-)
> > When you say, "Gravity is a fact," you may mean something like, "objects
> > fall to earth" or "planets orbit stars". Such facts are grouped together
> > in our minds. That grouping is a concept. You may also mean something
> > like, "THERE IS AN ATTRACTIVE FORCE BETWEEN MATTER, called 'gravity'."*
> > Well, there you have an abstraction, offering an explanation for
> > observed facts. That abstraction is also a concept. You may mean
> > Newton's or Einstein's law of gravity, both concepts.
>New emphasis. ;-)
>As for denying the force, gravity does not seem to be a force like other
>forces, which are mediated by particles. The graviton has not been
>found, and may not exist. In the physics of the future, gravity may not
>be conceived of as a force at all. :-) That gravity is a force is an
>idea, which can be denied.
Wade quotes selectively? I thought he was being concise, working hard to
conserve bandwidth or something like that ;-)
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