Re: Thoughts and Perceptions

From: Philip Jonkers (
Date: Thu Apr 18 2002 - 17:31:40 BST

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    > Science is not a system of memes, but a system of removing the
    > subjectivity of the human observer from the measurement. It is objective
    > as objective can get with human agents as part of the mix.

    If science is not a system of memes then Wade how would you call
    scientific elements like:
    E = mc^2 or F = ma or 'DNA is composed out of nucleotides' ?
    If these things were not memetic how could they possibly disseminate
    across the scientific community? Some, such as E = mc^2, even make it to
    become known over virtually the entire human population. If that didn't
    happen through memetic transmission then what else mechanism was

    > Science finds nothing objective about astrology.

    If effective in some sense it may be that astrology exploits our viability
    self-fulfilling prophecies. Humans have a tendency to cling to non-sensical
    systems that give them a sense of security, albeit of a false kind of


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