Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id PAA23410 (8.6.9/5.3[ref firstname.lastname@example.org] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from email@example.com); Thu, 18 Apr 2002 15:24:33 +0100 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 10:18:31 -0400 Subject: Re: Thoughts and Perceptions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed From: "Wade T.Smith" <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: email@example.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <3CBEC6CB.C1D2B380@pacbell.net> Message-Id: <28F2B5CD-52D7-11D6-A1A2-003065B9A95A@harvard.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Sender: firstname.lastname@example.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: email@example.com
On Thursday, April 18, 2002, at 09:14 , Bill Spight wrote:
> Facts are not memes. However, for any given facts, there is a
> multiplicity of descriptions, explanations, theories that fit those
> facts. And those descriptions, explanations, and theories are memetic.
> That fact would not have occurred
> without the idea.
No. The fact was there all along. The fact that no-one achieved escape
velocity might have been dependent upon some idea of escape velocity,
but this did not precede the fact that there was a velocity required to
escape. That velocity never appeared just because someone thought about
Of course, there is a cosmology that requires the thought of God to
start the whole shebang....
And then there's Bishop Berkeley.
And I suppose there's Plato, too.
None of which deal with facts....
This was distributed via the memetics list associated with the
Journal of Memetics - Evolutionary Models of Information Transmission
For information about the journal and the list (e.g. unsubscribing)
This archive was generated by hypermail 2b29 : Thu Apr 18 2002 - 17:43:02 BST