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Good morning Grant,
What did you see in the fianncial section of New York?
I think the core idea of 'getting our attention' is that there are some
things the US is doing -- some things consciously and some unconsciously of
their effects -- that harm the Arab andor Muslim owlrds, or the 3rd World.
The great majority of those who hold this view would like us to enter into a
dialog with them to see whether these issues can be resolved. A few who hold
these views have 'given up' on the US (and other western countries) and see
that only acts of violence will get our attention.
A large part of Palestinian violence aganist the Israelis is motivated for
this reason as well: to indicate to the Israelis that the Palestinian cause
and desire for a viable freedom cannot be ignored. Of course, some Israelis
react to this provocation with violence of their own and announcements that
they will not pay attention to Palestinian grievances, but others realize
that the only way Israeli itself can have have peace is to deal with those
grievances. At this time, which way this will eventually go is still up in
the air, and very difficult, given the mutual antipathy that has evolved.
But the US is under no such constraint; we do have the option to enter into
dialog with those who have grievances against us, at least to the point of
coming to understand what they are. Bush's extraordinary reversal -- that
we CAN neotiate poitically without the prerequisite of a cessation of
violence, is very promising.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: firstname.lastname@example.org [mailto:email@example.com]On Behalf
> Of Grant Callaghan
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 2:45 AM
> To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> Subject: RE: Bush's War on Terrorism
> >The people who are preaching "it" DON'T call it 'shia'. Please look at
> >Armstrong's book, or look up "shi'i" in an encyclopedia, or do
> something to
> >find out what shi'ism is. It has nothing to do with the "it"
> that you are
> >so worried about.
> >As to "them," they are aren't out to kill us; they are out to get our
> >attention. Unfortunately, all too many people in this country have yet to
> >learn what it is we are supposed to be paying attention to...
> Whatever they call the new doctrine, I've seen examples of how people are
> enforcing it on television and in the newspapers. I've also seen
> an example
> of it in New York in the financial section. Yes, that got my attention.
> Now I wonder what the people who got it want to do with it. And how is
> getting my attention going to change anything or help them in any
> way? One
> more attention getter like that and I'll be ready to back George
> Bush. Is
> that what they want?
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