Re: Thoughts and Perceptions

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    >From: "Wade T.Smith" <>
    >Subject: Re: Thoughts and Perceptions
    >Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 23:11:21 -0400
    >On Wednesday, April 17, 2002, at 09:42 , Ned Wolpert wrote:
    >>Funny, I wonder if we could analyize the meme that
    >>causes each of us to define the word 'fact', and see how we came up
    >>with the different flavors of this one word.
    >I derive my own usage (which does not in any vital way differ from the
    >Merriam Webster that I posted) from the following quote from Washburn-
    >"Every fact is backed up by the entire universe."
    >You cannot replace 'fact' with 'concept' or 'representation' or
    >'description' and get a meaningful sentence.
    >And that's a fact. (5 : a piece of information presented as having
    >objective reality)
    And isn't a version of "truth" known as "correspondence with the facts"?
    Popper plays up someone named Tarski (enter John Wilkins, resident

    Yet facts are in the eyes of the beholder and truth is a tentative grasp of
    reality, at least for the really complex over my head stuff.

    I can make a statement that I'm replying to Wade. This can be compared to
    the facts and found to be true. Whether Wade has a "self-plex" might be a
    little more difficult, though there are facts to be consulted, whatever
    those facts may possibly be.

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