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From: Kenneth Van Oost <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: media violence report in Science
Just a comment,
Why is, like Vincent points out the alleged increase in TV- related crimes,
only be confined to the US and not Europe !?
Maybe there is an increase, there is an alleged increase of people feeling
insecure,... but do we make a fuss about it !?
No ! What than, not enough investigations !? No, IMO, just the opposite,
because in the US, they try too mush... it is overkill !
IMO, in the US they try to proove something what within the public is
taking for granted, but which has no fundamental bias.
Like I said, in Europe people are suffering ( and that is what it is IMO)
from increased most likely irritable feelings of uncertainty/ anger/
unsafety/ frustration/... has therefor society as a whole and as such become
more unsafe !? Some say, it has !
There is no proof whatsoever to conclude such an assumption.
Why than such feelings !?
IMO, because certain aspects of the " new created society " ( multicul-
tural) are strange ( and counter the ambitions of our own) to us and our
memetical immunesystem reacts accordingly_ what in a sense can be
Also, IMO still what plays a role, is the human condition as such. We
don 't know anymore who and what we are, have lost our selfrespect,
selfesteem, our identity, we lost symbolic associations.
Nationality, gender, race, sex, class, tribe, group,... are, has to be, as
seems to be, of no importance, but that doesn 't work as some politicians
think it should be.
Those thigs are still fundamental, they are internalized, still hard facts
which just can 't be disregarded, they still need detailed and careful
In that respect, it can be that some fundamental, inbedded selection
mechanisms are disregarded/ inhibit and so prevent,.. upset an/ the
equilibrium which exist_ violence, seen as a mechanism to fight with
for example a dominant other is now restrained, because we don 't
have to ' fight ' nomore, in a sense we do, I know.
Rapports that violence on TV promotes violence in the public upsets
thus the biological equilibrium which registers on the one hand the
potential killing of the other ( threat) and on the other hand, the social
inhibited environment who discreases the former by law and order.
Rapports, thus upset a very neat balance within.
Such a scheme can turn into disaster if, like the Jews, like Israel, or
the US for that matter justifies that the principle of equality don 't
applies to them. That they institutionalize the system by which we
divide people ( sex/ race, nation,...). Israel institutionalize its being
Jewish, the US institutionalize the notion that they are the executioner
of the world. And maybe, maybe, maybe that is found back, in some
sense in the rapports revealed to us.
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