Re: Thoughts and Perceptions

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    >Subject: Re: Thoughts and Perceptions
    >Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 23:18:09 -0400
    >On Tuesday, April 16, 2002, at 10:36 , Grant Callaghan wrote:
    >>The means you use shape the ends you get.
    >Due to the gravity of the situation, that makes no sense to me, qua
    >gravity. As a physical fact of the universe, there is no shaping it,
    >there is only dealing with it.
    >There is no conceptualization possible of a universal fact.
    >Regardless of what shape you _want_ it to be, it only comes in one size.
    >Unless your concept of this fact (as I've stated a thousand times) is
    >erroneous, in which case it has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact,
    >and everything to do with the concept.
    >So, what's a fact got to do with memetics?
    >Nothin', brudda.
    >- Wade
    "The means you use shape the ends you get." is just part of my signature. I
    usually remember to delete it. Sometimes I forget.

    Nature does not create facts. People do. Facts are therefore concepts.
    The idea of a fact is a meme and a concept. And that's a fact.



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