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From: Kenneth Van Oost <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be>
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: memetics-digest V1 #1008
> Hi Steve, Grant,
> > >I think you have made a good point here Grant. Each of us knows what we
> > >mean
> > >ourselves. The problem arises in conveying that meaning to another. If
> > >above quote seems reasonable, it folows that we build our own life
> > >vocabulary as each of us occupies our own 'environment' as we learn,
> > >itself is a life long process. So to convey our meanings in an
> > >have to explain our terminology, context, and negotiate an acceptable
> > >agreement on the communication that is taking place.
> > >To me that could be more of a barrier to memetics than the size of a
> > >
> > >It may be that the size of a meme may be dependent on the context we
> > >looking at. Comparing with physics say, a car crash can be described
> > >accurateley without reference to QM or Relativistic Mechanics. The same
> > >doesn't work too well in a particle interaction, such as the single
> > >expt.
> << A meme importance is not dependent on the context alone, also the
> way we express it has its benefits. It is all related to the context, I
> completely but saying something in a hard, gently way where that is in-
> approiate has its consequences.
> We had a thread about architecture some time ago, wherein the authers
> had something to say about ' incapsulated ' memes.
> Such memes ( drive- along- memes I call them) are context based.
> In my schemata a memetic system has three criteria,
> the meme- core ( or like in genetics the nucleus of the cell), the meme
> its fecundity ( what makes the meme survive, what protects it from harm)
> and the meme its longevity ( with what the meme is connected_ co- memes/
> The most important aspect, IMO is the third one, the meme its longevity,
> what is connected as mere as webs of association, the context, its mea-
> ning structure, what can be translated as those fundamental characters of
> They have a great tendency to be transmitted_ their fitness is somehow
> attractive to the meme- core.
> " Undue any meme of its rich information content/ context and you will
> get the ' meme- core ', in a broader sense the memetype. "
> Quantity will become quality !
> In the same article I found this, it seems that in architecture the lowest
> of the information treshold is the one that gets propagated.
> In what sense is than ' context ' important !?
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