RE: Fwd: 'Creationist' school has evolution debate

From: Vincent Campbell (v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk)
Date: Thu Apr 11 2002 - 10:46:03 BST

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    Nooooooo! You've written his name- that's bound to bring him back!!!!!! Or
    is he like the Candyman and you hav to say his name three times?

    Vincent

    > ----------
    > From: rrecchia@mail.clarityconnect.com
    > Reply To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 17:58 PM
    > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > Subject: Re: Fwd: 'Creationist' school has evolution debate
    >
    > Don't do it Richard! It will be like having a conversation with Chris
    > Lofting!
    >
    > Ray Recchia
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Wade Smith <wade_smith@harvard.edu>
    > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk, Skeptic List <skeptic@listproc.hcf.jhu.edu>
    > Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:23:00 -0400
    > Subject: Fwd: 'Creationist' school has evolution debate
    >
    > > 'Creationist' school has evolution debate
    > >
    > > Tania Branigan
    > > Tuesday April 9, 2002
    > > The Guardian
    > >
    > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,681133,00.html
    > >
    > > The school at the centre of the row over creationism in
    > > education is inviting one of its chief critics to speak to its
    > > students about evolution, it has emerged.
    > >
    > > Sir Peter Vardy, the multimillionaire entrepreneur who donated
    > > 2m to found Emmanuel city technology college in Gateshead, and
    > > who remains director of its board, wants Richard Dawkins to take
    > > part in a debate.
    > >
    > > Emmanuel has been criticised since the Guardian revealed last
    > > month that lectures given by its staff, suggested evolution was
    > > a "faith position" and urged teachers to "counter [its] false
    > > doctrines".
    > >
    > > At the time, Professor Dawkins, an authority on evolution,
    > > wrote: "Any science teacher who denies the world is billions (or
    > > even millions) of years old is teaching children a preposterous,
    > > mind-shrinking falsehood. These men disgrace the honourable
    > > profession of teacher."
    > >
    > > But the two men have been corresponding privately since the
    > > dispute broke out and are now planning to meet. Sir Peter said:
    > > "We are quite open to talking to anybody. I would like to have a
    > > debate at Emmanuel college for the students to hear and I'll be
    > > asking him to take part."
    > >
    > > He added: "I am not a creationist and neither is Emmanuel
    > > college. We have guys who do believe in young earth [theories],
    > > but we also have atheists and agnostics and folks that believe
    > > in the old earth _ What we seek to do is present all the views
    > > of both creation and evolution."
    > >
    > > But in a lecture, the school's head of science, Steven Layfield,
    > > urged Christian teachers to "show the superiority" of
    > > creationist theories.
    > >
    > > He added that they should "note every occasion when an
    > > evolutionary/old-earth paradigm [millions or billions of years]
    > > is explicitly mentioned or implied and courteously point out the
    > > fallibility of the statement". Most scientists agree that life
    > > on earth is around four billion years old.
    > >
    > > "I'm keen to meet Sir Peter and no doubt the idea of a debate
    > > will be one of many things we discuss when we meet up," Prof
    > > Dawkins said.
    > >
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