Re: Fwd: 'Creationist' school has evolution debate

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    Don't do it Richard! It will be like having a conversation with Chris
    Lofting!

    Ray Recchia

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Wade Smith <wade_smith@harvard.edu>
    To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk, Skeptic List <skeptic@listproc.hcf.jhu.edu>
    Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:23:00 -0400
    Subject: Fwd: 'Creationist' school has evolution debate

    > 'Creationist' school has evolution debate
    >
    > Tania Branigan
    > Tuesday April 9, 2002
    > The Guardian
    >
    > http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,681133,00.html
    >
    > The school at the centre of the row over creationism in
    > education is inviting one of its chief critics to speak to its
    > students about evolution, it has emerged.
    >
    > Sir Peter Vardy, the multimillionaire entrepreneur who donated
    > 2m to found Emmanuel city technology college in Gateshead, and
    > who remains director of its board, wants Richard Dawkins to take
    > part in a debate.
    >
    > Emmanuel has been criticised since the Guardian revealed last
    > month that lectures given by its staff, suggested evolution was
    > a "faith position" and urged teachers to "counter [its] false
    > doctrines".
    >
    > At the time, Professor Dawkins, an authority on evolution,
    > wrote: "Any science teacher who denies the world is billions (or
    > even millions) of years old is teaching children a preposterous,
    > mind-shrinking falsehood. These men disgrace the honourable
    > profession of teacher."
    >
    > But the two men have been corresponding privately since the
    > dispute broke out and are now planning to meet. Sir Peter said:
    > "We are quite open to talking to anybody. I would like to have a
    > debate at Emmanuel college for the students to hear and I'll be
    > asking him to take part."
    >
    > He added: "I am not a creationist and neither is Emmanuel
    > college. We have guys who do believe in young earth [theories],
    > but we also have atheists and agnostics and folks that believe
    > in the old earth _ What we seek to do is present all the views
    > of both creation and evolution."
    >
    > But in a lecture, the school's head of science, Steven Layfield,
    > urged Christian teachers to "show the superiority" of
    > creationist theories.
    >
    > He added that they should "note every occasion when an
    > evolutionary/old-earth paradigm [millions or billions of years]
    > is explicitly mentioned or implied and courteously point out the
    > fallibility of the statement". Most scientists agree that life
    > on earth is around four billion years old.
    >
    > "I'm keen to meet Sir Peter and no doubt the idea of a debate
    > will be one of many things we discuss when we meet up," Prof
    > Dawkins said.
    >
    >
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