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> Can I suggest a raised eyebrow (a la Spock) for perplexed rather than the
> slanted mouth? Something like:
> Otherwise interesting discussion guys. I think you're arguing at cross
> purposes a bit though. I think Wade's right that there are features of
> our perceptions that are not subject to the biases of conscious thought-
> at the point of perception, but (and I think Wade agrees with this also)
> that generally intepretations of our perceptions are biased. I'm reminded
> of a discussion ages ago where we were talking about instinctual
> behaviours and conscious thought. I gave the example of someone catching
> a ball- the motion of the arm being an unconscious process- but someone, I
> forget who, pointed out that one would think about whether catching or
> ducking or some other response was needed. So, in that sense perception
> is the seeing the thing coming towards you, interpretation follows (but is
> also based on prior knowledge, experience, and context- so if I was
> playing baseball I'd be thinking 'catch it!').
> Watching the baseball at the weekend (A's at Seattle was on Channel 5) the
> commentators were talking about how major league batters appear to have
> more time to spot the spin and direction of the ball than normal people
> (I've seen this demonstrated with racing drivers- their points of focus
> and reactions to what they see are quicker than the typical driver).
> Several comments can be made here 1) we can observe and measure the speed
> of a pitch using instruments, 2) the speed of the pitch is the same
> whoever's watching it, but 3) different people will experience that speed
> differently. If the Big Unit, for example, was pitching at me, I think I
> would be very very frightened and probably not even get to swing the bat
> before the ball is in the catcher's mitt, whereas any of the Mets'
> fantastic team would obviously have the 'time' to knock it out of the
> park, 'seeing' the ball for longer etc. etc.
> I'm sure that's a totally wrong usage of the word perception, so I'm
> prepared to be hoist on my own petard...
> From: Scott Chase
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> >From: "Wade T.Smith" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
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> >Subject: Re: memetics-digest V1 #1011
> >Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 19:53:35 -0400
> >On Monday, April 8, 2002, at 07:30 , Scott Chase wrote:
> >>So Wade, "WHAT?" is the crucial question to which you might want to
> >>give some thought.
> >No, 'WHAT?' is the fatal mistake.
> And I thought 'WHY?' (or ultimate questions) was the fatal mistake :-/ (me
> perplexed emoticon)
> Nice sidestep though, even if you accidently knocked over the punchbowl
> DJ's turntable in the process.
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