Re: To be or not to be: memetics a science?

From: Wade T.Smith (
Date: Fri Apr 05 2002 - 05:24:25 BST

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    On Thursday, April 4, 2002, at 05:56 , Steve Drew wrote:

    > Man is the measure of all things?

    The complete quote-

    "Of the gods I know nothing, whether they exist or do not exist: nor what
    they are like in form. Many things stand in the way of knowledge - the
    obscurity of the subject, the brevity of human life."

    "Man is the measure of all things, of things that are, that they are, of
    things that are not, that they are not."

    Although I'm sure Joe would have much to say, wherever he is, the fact
    that we are the only ones measuring is sufficient to gain understanding
    of my usage. Nothing to be judgmental about. Nothing said about good or
    bad, just measurement. And science is measurement, if it is nothing
    else. But, what to measure? One needs the millimeter to use a meter
    stick. One needs the meme to use memetics.

    And what I've always meant by unethical is the process where, in order
    to identify and isolate a meme, one has to 'grow' a human who is absent
    of memes, and that is unethical, as it would demand, as the wild
    children have shown, incomplete development.

    Eavesdropping is not science. It may be a form of data gathering, for
    novelists or pundits or gossipers, but it is not science.

    - Wade

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