Wildebeest !!

From: Kenneth Van Oost (Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be)
Date: Sat Mar 30 2002 - 20:46:05 GMT

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    Hi all,

    Reading something about altruistic suicide_ somebody kills/ sacrifies him-
    self for the good and better cause // youngsters kill themselves because
    they think that without them around things will get better in the household_
    I was wondering !

    What about the fact that if wildebeests/ zebra's have to cross a river, can/ may
    we ' recognize ' the same characteristic lets say by the first animal that
    jumps into the water and in most cases will/ can be eaten/ killed by a
    crocodile !?

    After all, what is the difference between the act of killing oneself to get
    things better and killing yourself by jumping first in the river so that the
    group you belong to can/ may cross easier/ savier !? ( If of course my
    reasoning ends up !!)
    Of course, and I agree, we can say that it is the wildebeest its instincts
    that drives it along and the first who gets to the river has no luck_ can we
    forsee a link with the boy who commits suicide in order to take away the
    tensions that rages in the household !?
    What makes an animal to go first !? Like we said, instinct !?

    Ok, but all the beasts does have, I presume an equal characteristic, so
    in a way, each of them can be the first to jump but only one does it.
    And yes, we can ackowledge the fact that the one who actually jumps
    first is forced/ pushed in to it by the group to take the lead, but can we
    be sure !?
    If so, how and why !?

    We had such an discussion before covering why birds go in one direction
    presumably all together at the same moment in time ( they follow a leader),
    but in the case of the wildebesst, if it was the leader who goes first, where
    is the gain for the group, left behind without its captain !?
    I reckon it will all come down to instinct and internal behavioral aspects
    but I can 't stop wondering how mush such behavior corresponds with what
    we can observe by a human child.

    Moreover, thinking about it, by ants the same behavior can be spotted_
    some dive into the water to make a brigde/ a floating harnas to support
    others so that those can cross, drowning themselves in the process of
    doing so !

    Anyone !?



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