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> From: "Philip Jonkers" <email@example.com>
> Subject: Re: Scientists think that animals think:
> The conception that we humans exclusively have access to the highest of
> congnitive functions is due to
> vestigial anthropocentric thinking mainly caused by religious sentiments I
> think. As with any religious matter
> anthropocentric conceptions deserve no true place in science other than,
> perhaps, itself be the subject
> of scientific investigation. It comes as no surprise to me that animals in
> fact, have notions about themselves
> their social lives and make anticipations about their environment albeit
> necessarily crude and primitive of course.
> We evolved from animals so I have no problems accepting that we also
> inherited and subsequently
> further evolved into high sophistication a large part of the high cognitive
> functions we now have.
The article i posted on Koko the gorilla convinced me. My only are of doubt
is whether animals are capable of memes.
> What's with this stuff about Dutch being boring.... :'-(
I'll swap Amsterdam for Bradford (UK, not PA) on a night out!
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