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Good morning Kenneth,
My impression is that in the US if a person is condemned for criminal
insanity, that they remain in prison for the criminally insane and are not
released until they 'prove' they are healed (or their sentence runs out?). I
don't know ehether this is followed in practice, given the general policy of
releasing criminals and people with mental problems into the general
population, but this has been the apporach for at least a couple of
high-visibility cases that I know about: Hinckley, who shot Reagan, and
Dennis Sweeney, who assassinated Al Lowenberg. Hinckley has asked several
times to be released, and his doctors simply post their diagnosis that he is
Do you know how release-upon-healing is handled in Belgium?
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> > The insanity defense has always intrigued me, as it seems to
> suggest that
> > the greater and more bizarre the crime, the more credibility
> the claim of
> > insanity would be. Might this not simply encourage petty criminals and
> > killers to exaggerate the nature of their crimes so as to lay the
> > for an insanity plea? It is no wonder that juries are skeptical, and, I
> > think, properly so.
> Yes, but the difference, at least here in Belgium, insane people
> get treated
> and walk away freely after a few years ( healed !?). In that sense the in-
> sanity plea is the best, possible avaible to get Yates of the hook.
> The plea is the closest one the defense will ever get to get an acquittal.
> And I don 't think petty criminals will encourage themselves to plea for
> insanity, though.
> We had here, a few weeks ago the Pandy- case. Father and daughter,
> mixed up in incestious relationship, allegedly killed 6 family-members and
> let disappear their bodies by dripping them into an acid bath of some
> toilet- destop- product.
> Exaggerated, no it works, insanity- plea no !
> The defense argued that there were no bodies found, so no crime was
> But father and daughter were comdemned. You need some bias to plea
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