Fw: More Fun And Games

From: Kenneth Van Oost (Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be)
Date: Thu Mar 14 2002 - 15:12:49 GMT

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    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: Steve Drew <srdrew_1@hotmail.com>
    > > This seems to be a sneaky way to put god back into creation.
    > > In the Kansas saga they tried to get evolution describe as a theory that
    > > required equal weight be given to the bible. If i am correct, the people
    > who
    > > enacted this were thrown out once the parents found that their kids
    > biology,
    > > geology etc qualifications would be worthless if this BS continued.
    > >
    > > This is more subtle and deserve some attention. They do not deny Darwin
    > > geology for now, but have opted for the Intelligence By Design idea.
    > > the universe is too well integrated and complex to have come about,
    > > therefore it must have been designed. Though they say it doesn't have to
    > be
    > > god as the designer, to my mind that is the eventual aim.
    > Hi Steve,
    > Yes I agree, we need to watch out for this and those !
    > Just yesterday I saw a TV- program eloborating such a view.
    > The people interviewed, ( it was a catholic network), don 't indeed deny
    > Darwin, how could they, but come up with the application that the uni-
    > verse and everything in it, can 't came about as it does now without a
    > ' design or designer ', what in their meaning can be god or something
    > called god.
    > The arguments they use are based onto the mathemetical order by which
    > the universe is constructed. Their main point is that the universe is so
    > precise in its mathemetical order, that the numbers used just end up to
    > sustain life. They argue that this can 't be just coincidence... god or
    > some-
    > thing ' created ' out of nothing matter ( via quantum- processes) in such
    > way that it will automatically lead up to us....
    > The IMO, still, silly counter- argument of science is that our universe
    > is one of many, taking away the opposite its points by denying that god
    > or something created our universe and only ours, to support us.
    > Of course, the new counter- counter- attack of the followers of the
    > Design- concept argue now that science has no proove... what is right
    > in any way.
    > But I agree, we must watch out, but on the other hand, I don 't think
    > that those memes are released without knowing they were, though !
    > People, supporting the Design- concept, like those yesterday, are
    > working close, and are in many cases scientists, with NASA and other
    > space- related programs. They are sitting right on the blink of new
    > discoveries made, they see new phenomenons emerging right on their
    > screens and in front of their eyes, they talk about this with fellow
    > scientists but they say nothing about god or something. They are just
    > doing their daily job, but at the end of the day they twist and shuffle
    > the readings about in order to get a more god- like picture.
    > That is in my opinion the real danger. Those people get access to
    > information where you and I know nothing about. They got a headstart
    > from the beginning. In Nazi- times, the torturers went home at the end
    > of the day and played the piano beautifully like nothing happened.
    > The same thing can be applied here, but it is indeed more subtle...
    > In many ways, what people don 't understand or the things which can 't
    > be explained will be the work of god. That is a very old statement.
    > Regards,
    > Kenneth

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