Re: Cultural traits and vulnerability to memes

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Date: Wed Mar 13 2002 - 19:27:03 GMT

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    Hi Wade,

    > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:32:43 -0500
    > From: "Wade T.Smith" <>
    > Subject: Re: Cultural traits and vulnerability to memes
    > Hi Steve Drew -
    >>> Hardwiring is not a defense against variance.
    >> Yes it is. It works or it doesn't.
    > Hmm. I more meant to mean- you can't use variety in behaviors to deny
    > hardwiring.

    I certainly don't deny hard wiring.

    >> Discovering nothing can still be of value.
    > Somewhere I saw another quote about that essence of science, and yes, it
    > certainly is and can.
    >>> And evolution is a system of developing hardwiring.

    Not sure i follow this. I tend to consider that evolution doesn't do any
    thing as such. It is just a shorthand way of describing a number of factors
    that operate on living creatures.

    >> It can be, that's why species go extinct. Too ossified to change.
    > And I more meant to mean, evolution is a system of presenting the
    > hardware.
    > Memetics is generally one of the developments in thought that we've
    > needed once we figured out, if we have figured out, that homo sapiens
    > doesn't really do instinct any more. Or else we do and we're just too
    > close to it to see it that way. We'd all like to see the report of an
    > extraterrestial ethnographer. Well, as long as it wasn't a clam....
    > - - Wade

    I think what you may mean is that we do instinctive things, unless we think
    otherwise. A choice between reacting and acting the difference being the non
    thinking on the one hand, and thinking on the other.



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