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> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:32:43 -0500
> From: "Wade T.Smith" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> Subject: Re: Cultural traits and vulnerability to memes
> Hi Steve Drew -
>>> Hardwiring is not a defense against variance.
>> Yes it is. It works or it doesn't.
> Hmm. I more meant to mean- you can't use variety in behaviors to deny
I certainly don't deny hard wiring.
>> Discovering nothing can still be of value.
> Somewhere I saw another quote about that essence of science, and yes, it
> certainly is and can.
>>> And evolution is a system of developing hardwiring.
Not sure i follow this. I tend to consider that evolution doesn't do any
thing as such. It is just a shorthand way of describing a number of factors
that operate on living creatures.
>> It can be, that's why species go extinct. Too ossified to change.
> And I more meant to mean, evolution is a system of presenting the
> Memetics is generally one of the developments in thought that we've
> needed once we figured out, if we have figured out, that homo sapiens
> doesn't really do instinct any more. Or else we do and we're just too
> close to it to see it that way. We'd all like to see the report of an
> extraterrestial ethnographer. Well, as long as it wasn't a clam....
> - - Wade
I think what you may mean is that we do instinctive things, unless we think
otherwise. A choice between reacting and acting the difference being the non
thinking on the one hand, and thinking on the other.
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