Re: Example of an aggresive irrational meme

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    > Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 22:18:18 +0000
    > From: Steve Drew <>
    > Subject: Re: Example of an aggresive irrational meme
    >> Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 10:35:00 -0900
    >> From: "Philip Jonkers" <>
    >> Subject: Re: Example of an aggresive irrational meme
    >> Hi Steve,
    >>>> IMHO: In My Humble Opinion;
    >>>> IMO: In My Opinion;
    >>>> IIRC: If I Recall (Remember or perhaps Retrieve) Correctly;
    >>>> LOL: Lots of Laughs;
    >>>> FUBAR: Go See `Saving Private Ryan';
    >>> I've seen Saving Private Ryan, but don't recall FUBAR
    >> That's weird, because the acronym was used repeatedly and was
    >> even elaborated upon by corporal Upham. Anyway, I'll quit playing around:
    >> FUBAR: Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition...
    >> Ring a bell?
    > Still not I'm afraid. Not a bad film though, just not worth all the praise
    > that was heaped upon it. he did much better with Band Of Brothers.
    >>>> ps. As for not passing on: yes it is... perhaps not to everyone but it
    >> still
    >>>> winded up in
    >>>> my mailbox.
    >> Steve:
    >>> Many things have transmission potential, but die due to the environment
    >> they
    >>> find themselves in. This one died in my environment (my brain) as i refuse
    >>> to pass it on.
    >> It only `died out' in your mind, not in many (less rational) others....
    > This is true. And as a rational person should you aid propagating crap? :-)
    >> Steve:
    >>> Also IMO memes don't have traits such as aggressive or irrational any more
    >>> than they have a colour, as the meme is the behaviour, rather than a
    >>> possessor of the behaviour.
    >> Of course, qualifiers like `aggressive', 'nice' or 'selfish' pertain only to
    >> decision making
    >> entities. In memetics when we say a meme is aggressive, selfish we mean that
    >> in a metaphorical
    >> not literal way. An aggressive meme is a meme that is designed to emphasize
    >> on transmission
    >> rather than virtue.
    >> Philip.
    > I prefer successful to aggressive. It lives or it dies. Another may be
    > infectious which also does without assigning behaviours to a meme.
    > Regards
    > Steve

    I'll correct this myself.

    I just assigned a behaviour to a meme, which is what i'm am against, where
    as the meme is the behaviour. so easy to do.

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