RE: Rumsfeld Says He May Drop New Office of Influence: Israel and Palestine

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    Greetings, Kenneth and all list members. I am back from my mini-sabbatical
    and will try and catch up with your numerous emails. I'm glad to see that
    the Rumsfeld thread has mutated to other subjects!

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: []On Behalf
    > Of Kenneth Van Oost

    > The bias where upon the Jews and the Palestinians now have to live their
    > lives are NOT, and I repeat NOT of their own choosing !
    > The state of Israel was indicted in 1948 by others, not the Jews neither
    > the Palestinians were involved in the proces.

    If you mean that the seizure of parts of Palestine by the Zionist movement
    and Jewish inhabitants of Palestine and their declaration of Statehood in
    1948 was 'not of their own choosing', I must disagree. Certainly it was not
    of Palestinian choosing, as their opposition was well demonstrated in the
    strikes of the 1920s and 30s.

    But that it was of Zionist choosing seems undeniable: you need only begin
    with Theordor Herzl's wonderful DER JUDENSTAAT, the establishment of the
    Zionist Organization, Chaim Weizmann's leadership and objectives, Weizmann's
    visits to the Ottoman government, Ben Gurion's early thoughts on the need to
    fight the Palestinians, the multiple Zionist organizations that ably
    supported Jewish settlement and military preparation in Palestine, the
    diplomatic initiatives with the UK, French and Russian governments to gain
    their support for a Jewish home in Palestine, the Zionist attacks on the
    British Mandatory authority when it seemed that Britain would seek to limit
    Jewish settlement in Palestine, the multiple Zionist assertions that
    Palestine was an empty land and could therefore be turned over to a Jewish
    State without causing harm, the skillful "Fight the 1939 White Paper as if
    their were no WWII, and fight WWII as if there were no White Paper" Zionist
    policy, the extraordinary effort to enlist American Jews in encouraging the
    Truman administration to support the creation of the State of Israel, and
    finally, the state of military readiness that the Jewish community in
    Palestine had achieved by the end of WWII (arms supplies, training, military
    organization, battle plans)....

    Having said all of this, it is also clear that the Zionists were blinded by
    their sense of dire necessity: first to provide world Jewry with some
    diplomatic protection, and then to receive Holocaust survivors and begin to
    rebuild world jewry psychologically. That there were Palestinians already
    living in Palestine, who had their own rightful expectations of ridding
    themse4lves of colonial masters and achieving their independence, was a
    surprise, in the most fundamental sense of the term, to Zionists and to the
    Israeli population.

    I will continue these thoughts and turn to the makings of a solution in my
    next email, under the new subject heading: "Toward a solution: Israel and


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