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>From: Jeremy Bradley <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>Subject: Re: Why memeoids?
>Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 10:32:53 +1100
>At 11:50 AM 10/02/02 +0100, you wrote:
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Scott Chase <email@example.com>
> They would probably dislike us less if we were a theocracy (ie-
> >> >>people of the book...the law stemming from that book) and an Islamic
> >> >>theocracy at that. Rabid anti-Semitism might get us more brownie
> >> >>
>In browsing the back E-mails I came across this nasty little meme. It is
>the contagious idea that only Jews are Semites, (I have had the
>'anti-Semitic' tag thrown at me by all kinds of fundies for supporting the
>rights of Palestinians to be unmolested in their own lands).
>The word 'Semite' refers to all those races derived from Shem, (I quote The
>Oxford) "including Hebrews…Arabs & Assyrians." So unless we support the
>idea that present day Middle Eastern Moslems are all somehow survivors of
>the post-Exodus genocide of Canaanites, they are mostly Semites. This does
>not include those Moslems to the east of Iran as they were probably not
>even related (mythically or not) to Noah who was the father Shem and
>grandfather of Canaan.
>See Genesis 9 18-27 for the genesis of the problem and then the rest of the
>'Old Testament' for the history of the Levantine problem.
I don't have an OED handy to look up the origin of the word "anti-Semitism",
but my MWCD10 says: "hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a
religious, ethnic, or racial group". It gives the coinage date as 1882. I
can look it up in the OED tomorrow for more details, but though Semite is a
more general reference, it would tentatively seem that anti-Semitism
specifically refers to hatred of Jews.
Besides you didn't have to go through the histrionics of deconstruction,
since you knew what I meant, regardless of what ambiguity may exist in the
word anti-Semitism. I was using it in the sense found in MWCD10.
BTW I have read some issues of the _Washington Report on Middle East
Affairs_ and can find a degree of sympathy for the Palestinians. Probably
not enough to please you though.
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