Re: Why memeoids?

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    >From: Jeremy Bradley <>
    >Subject: Re: Why memeoids?
    >Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 10:32:53 +1100
    >At 11:50 AM 10/02/02 +0100, you wrote:
    > >
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    > >From: Scott Chase <>
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    > They would probably dislike us less if we were a theocracy (ie-
    > >> >>people of the book...the law stemming from that book) and an Islamic
    > >> >>theocracy at that. Rabid anti-Semitism might get us more brownie
    > >> >>
    >Hi All
    >In browsing the back E-mails I came across this nasty little meme. It is
    >the contagious idea that only Jews are Semites, (I have had the
    >'anti-Semitic' tag thrown at me by all kinds of fundies for supporting the
    >rights of Palestinians to be unmolested in their own lands).
    >The word 'Semite' refers to all those races derived from Shem, (I quote The
    >Oxford) "including Hebrews…Arabs & Assyrians." So unless we support the
    >idea that present day Middle Eastern Moslems are all somehow survivors of
    >the post-Exodus genocide of Canaanites, they are mostly Semites. This does
    >not include those Moslems to the east of Iran as they were probably not
    >even related (mythically or not) to Noah who was the father Shem and
    >grandfather of Canaan.
    >See Genesis 9 18-27 for the genesis of the problem and then the rest of the
    >'Old Testament' for the history of the Levantine problem.
    I don't have an OED handy to look up the origin of the word "anti-Semitism",
    but my MWCD10 says: "hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a
    religious, ethnic, or racial group". It gives the coinage date as 1882. I
    can look it up in the OED tomorrow for more details, but though Semite is a
    more general reference, it would tentatively seem that anti-Semitism
    specifically refers to hatred of Jews.

    Besides you didn't have to go through the histrionics of deconstruction,
    since you knew what I meant, regardless of what ambiguity may exist in the
    word anti-Semitism. I was using it in the sense found in MWCD10.

    BTW I have read some issues of the _Washington Report on Middle East
    Affairs_ and can find a degree of sympathy for the Palestinians. Probably
    not enough to please you though.

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