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>From: "Dace" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>Subject: Re: Words and memes
>Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 18:16:20 -0800
>From: Scott Chase
> > >Keith,
> > >
> > >I readily concede that the cattle killing involved a delusion, as did
> > >Jews at Masada. But the inaccuracy of a belief doesn't necessarily
> > >make it "mutant." Myth is universal among pre-scientific cultures and
> > >extremely important at binding communities. The idea that the Xhosa
> > >would regain in paradise all that they had destroyed on earth helped
> > >them to resist their absorption into an alien culture. It enabled them
> > >control their demise, to retain their human dignity to the end, just
> > >Masada. This is a healthy meme. If everyone resisted enslavement to
> > >the death, there would be no imperialism, no systematic injustice and
> > >inequality. We would indeed be inhabiting paradise.
> > >
> > >
> > Isn't Masada still a big component of the Israeli-Jewish cultural
> > _The Complete Idiot's Guide to Middle East Conflict_ (by Mitchell Bard,
> > 1999, Alpha Books, Indianapolis) refers to a "Masada complex" and says
> > that Israeli soldiers swear an oath ("Masada shall not fall again") at
> > Masada site. Hopefully I'm not reliving the mosque/mosquito thing here.
>Yet another example of the degeneration of culture to cult.
Can you elaborate a little?
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