Re: ality (cont'd)

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    >Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 10:37:36 -0800
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    Subject: Re: ality (cont'd)

    Keep in mind that the original mechanistic philosophy was =
    theological, with God as the great "Mechanick."<

    I thought we left that idea behind in the C19TH. Its relevance to now is..?

    >> >It's a meme when it becomes habituated among a a group of people.<

    No, it is a meme if it is passed between two people. Habituation is
    repeating the same thing without others picking it up as they already have
    it. It is only memetic if it is passed on

    > It is an invalid analogy. The same meme is acquired by a mind once. =
    > multiple times. There is no habitual acquisition of memes.<

    I agree with the first part, mostly. On the second point i think that may
    need some more explanation. eg why do wish to know things? survival or
    because we can. i enjoy learning as do it appears many of us here. There
    could be a meme for acquiring memes. A meme that goes around collecting
    others would last very well.

    >Memes are habitual behaviors and ideas shared by groups of people. You =
    sure you want to dismiss this view out of hand? Seems quite reasonable =
    to me.<

    No, some memes are habitual behaviours but only of they are passed on.
    Though to me, in any group of people you will not find 100% behavioural
    accord except in rare circumstance within a group. Another contributor to
    memetic drift. Secondly, not all habitual behaviours are memetic. Every so
    often i find i have the need to eat. The only behavioural aspect is where i
    will have lunch and what :-)



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