Re: Memes Meta-Memes and Politics and appetites

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Date: Fri Feb 22 2002 - 19:23:41 GMT

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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Wade T.Smith <>
    > On Thursday, February 21, 2002, at 03:03 , Kenneth Van Oost wrote:
    > >> people wonder and look at me
    > >> enjoying my meal on my own...
    > > The number of people eating in a restaurant is certainly one of the
    > > criteria
    > > I use when choosing among unknown eateries.
    > For what it's worth, I at first thought, simply looking and taking
    > Kenneth's comment most literally, that he merely meant he was eating by
    > himself- I got no indication that he was a singular presence in the
    > restaurant. In fact, I thought he meant other people in the restaurant
    > were the ones looking.
    > And there is a small stigma to sitting by oneself in a restaurant, at
    > least I think there is here in the US.
    > But then Grant interpreted it as meaning the restaurant was empty.
    > Totally different.
    > I was about to intercede with my interpretation that Ken only meant he
    > was sitting without a companion-
    > But then, he came back elucidating upon Grant's.
    > Ah, language....
    > Some restaurants get so busy, so fast, that it is a benefit to arrive
    > early and be one of the few patrons.
    > And some places are just so busy that the noise and activity are not
    > pleasant, at least not personally.
    > Getting people to enter a new restaurant is a major enterprise. I'm sure
    > books have and could be written.

    Hi Wade,

    I meant it in both ways, sitting on my own, without any compagnionship
    and sitting alone in an empty restaurant.
    By the former there is indeed, like you did mention, a stigma_ two ways
    IMO to see this,
    the first is ' jealousy ', alone with no hungry kids and a wife that can 't
    choose what to eat.... what a life !
    and two, is compassion. People always want to drag me along within their
    table- conversation, the weather... you know what it is like !!

    Like I said, group- behavioral traits show themselves in strange, odd ways.
    Not of my liking, though !
    But personally I love the first way best, sitting on my own seeing other
    people struggeling with kids, the wife, the mother in law... hell of a way
    to observe how memes work, or don 't....

    Cheers, I will have a cold beer next...


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