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  I
 > >  understand that if there is no 1:1 relation between parts and
 > >  functions, this is thus not analytic [am I right?]. But what does
 > >  this have to do with synthetic? You can't just multiply
 > >  structures, can you? How should I interpreted this?
 >
 > Note: in my answer to this I let the following shorthand exist... a,
 > b refer to the protein subunits, and 1, 2, 3, refer to the substrate
 > and the two cofactors respectively.
 >
 > >  > The practical result is in the relation of functional
 > >  > components to materia
 >    l
 > >  > parts.  A functional component (such as metabolism, repair,
 > >  > replication in M-R systems)  HAS NO 1:1 mapping to the material
 > >  > parts (biochemistry, anatomy).  It depends on them but can not
 > >  > be preserved if certain ORGANIZATION is destroyed.
 > >   If this were possible, analytic models
 > >  > would be equivalent to synthetic models and we'd be talking
 > >  > about a machine
 > >  > Further, all synthetic models are analytic models.
 > >  > There are analytic models which are not systhetic models.
 > >  this is what I do not understand, apparently this is the case
 > >  with non-machine models.
 Let me see if I understand now. An analytic model is when I can see a
 function and describe it. Some analytic models are also synthetic,
 meaning that i can find a structure for every function 1:1. If this
 is so, I am dealing with a machine.
 If this is not the case, i am dealing with something beyond the
 machine metaphor, and that could be an organism.
 Am I right?
 Hans-Cees
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